Comments on: well, that was disappointing http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/ changing things around. . . Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:49:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alec Resnick http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-356 Alec Resnick Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:33:54 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-356 <p>@John: No worries! I'm glad it actually happened; I just wish I'd been more patient. And thank <em>you</em>!</p> <p>@Scot, Don: still getting around to drafting a response; sorry for the delay!</p> <p>@Mako (kind of), Don: thanks for the link!</p> @John: No worries! I’m glad it actually happened; I just wish I’d been more patient. And thank you!

@Scot, Don: still getting around to drafting a response; sorry for the delay!

@Mako (kind of), Don: thanks for the link!

]]> By: John Sullivan http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-349 John Sullivan Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:48:42 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-349 <p>Ugh, I'm really sorry we missed you :(. We were there but obiviously we should have made more concrete meeting plans with people. It got going later on, like Scott said. Thanks for handing out those flyers and writing the letter.</p> Ugh, I’m really sorry we missed you :(. We were there but obiviously we should have made more concrete meeting plans with people. It got going later on, like Scott said. Thanks for handing out those flyers and writing the letter.

]]> By: the zak http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-346 the zak Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:31:05 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-346 <p>MAKOSHARK IS STRONG http://www.flickr.com/photos/makoshark/sets/72157600127273939/show/with/2255532118/</p> MAKOSHARK IS STRONG http://www.flickr.com/photos/makoshark/sets/72157600127273939/show/with/2255532118/

]]> By: The International House of Bacon » Blog Archive » Weekend Links http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-340 The International House of Bacon » Blog Archive » Weekend Links Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:48:03 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-340 <p>[...] Depending on who you talk to, the Boston Public Library DRM protest was either a complete flop or an interesting diversion. I’m still of the position that the old way of protesting [...]</p> […] Depending on who you talk to, the Boston Public Library DRM protest was either a complete flop or an interesting diversion. I’m still of the position that the old way of protesting […]

]]> By: Scot Colford http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-339 Scot Colford Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:31:04 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-339 <p>I repeat, Don. No one's computer is under surveillance when using OverDrive Media Console. It is not spyware.</p> I repeat, Don. No one’s computer is under surveillance when using OverDrive Media Console. It is not spyware.

]]> By: don warner saklad http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-337 don warner saklad Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:08:31 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-337 <p>> The issue is: the Library, by using "DRM", supports the general > principle that we should be under surveillance and that our > computers should be under the control of the Englobulators at all > times. No, we should not be under constant surveillance and no, > we should keep our computers our own. That means no DRM. None > whatsoever. > > Don, you may quote this, with attribution, and a warning that I > cannot, this month, enter the public conversation. > > oo--JS.</p> > The issue is: the Library, by using “DRM”, supports the general > principle that we should be under surveillance and that our > computers should be under the control of the Englobulators at all > times. No, we should not be under constant surveillance and no, > we should keep our computers our own. That means no DRM. None > whatsoever. > > Don, you may quote this, with attribution, and a warning that I > cannot, this month, enter the public conversation. > > oo — JS.

]]> By: don warner saklad http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-336 don warner saklad Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:05:53 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-336 <p>>> http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-332</p> <p>> Some of the most important actions have been one or two or three > person public meetings. And some of those started late. > A. Resnick was there. He could have handed out flyers and talked > with people on the street. He would have had some effect.</p> >> http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-332

> Some of the most important actions have been one or two or three > person public meetings. And some of those started late. > A. Resnick was there. He could have handed out flyers and talked > with people on the street. He would have had some effect.

]]> By: Scot Colford http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-333 Scot Colford Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:01:11 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-333 <p>Hi, Alec. I think the protest got off to a late start. I did, however, get to speak to John Sullivan at about 1:30. He's a very nice guy and seems willing to talk to us at the library about the situation.</p> <p>In case you haven't seen it, I posted the "official BPL response" on his LiveJournal blog, so you may want to check it out:</p> <p><a href="http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/212943.html" rel="nofollow">http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/212943.html</a></p> <p>I do have concerns about the flier that's being distributed, as the three points enumerated are either misleading, so please humor me by considering the following:</p> <ol> <li><p>The physical collection of the BPL is not in the hands of corporations. Neither are works that we digitize. In fact, we turned down an offer to work with Google on the digitization of library material because of concerns about access issues. Instead we are <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/technology/22library.html" rel="nofollow">partnering with the Open Content Alliance</a> which is committed to open access to all. The OverDrive service we offer is an additional subscription service that allows patrons to download digital copies of recent audio books, ebooks, music, and videos, most of which we own in physical form as well.</p></li> <li><p>The DRM licenses used by OverDrive do indeed expire after 14 days. This allows us to buy a few copies of a title and circulate them to many patrons over time. If we had to pay for each download of a title (as in the Audible or iTunes model), it would be like buying a copy of a book for every patron who wants to read it. Lending is what makes a library a library and DRM allows us to lend digital media.</p></li> <li><p>OverDrive requires the installation of OverDrive Media Console, but it is not spyware. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.</p></li> </ol> <p>I hope that clears up some misconceptions about the very popular service that we're offering.</p> <p>Scot Colford Applications Manager Boston Public Library scolford@bpl.org</p> Hi, Alec. I think the protest got off to a late start. I did, however, get to speak to John Sullivan at about 1:30. He’s a very nice guy and seems willing to talk to us at the library about the situation.

In case you haven’t seen it, I posted the “official BPL response” on his LiveJournal blog, so you may want to check it out:

http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/212943.html

I do have concerns about the flier that’s being distributed, as the three points enumerated are either misleading, so please humor me by considering the following:

  1. The physical collection of the BPL is not in the hands of corporations. Neither are works that we digitize. In fact, we turned down an offer to work with Google on the digitization of library material because of concerns about access issues. Instead we are partnering with the Open Content Alliance which is committed to open access to all. The OverDrive service we offer is an additional subscription service that allows patrons to download digital copies of recent audio books, ebooks, music, and videos, most of which we own in physical form as well.

  2. The DRM licenses used by OverDrive do indeed expire after 14 days. This allows us to buy a few copies of a title and circulate them to many patrons over time. If we had to pay for each download of a title (as in the Audible or iTunes model), it would be like buying a copy of a book for every patron who wants to read it. Lending is what makes a library a library and DRM allows us to lend digital media.

  3. OverDrive requires the installation of OverDrive Media Console, but it is not spyware. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.

I hope that clears up some misconceptions about the very popular service that we’re offering.

Scot Colford Applications Manager Boston Public Library scolford@bpl.org

]]> By: don warner saklad http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-332 don warner saklad Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:36:29 +0000 http://aresnick.mit.edu/blog/well-that-was-disappointing/#comment-332 <p>BPL board chair http://www.wilmerhale.com/jeffrey_rudman/ http://bpl.org/general/trustees/trustees.htm</p> BPL board chair http://www.wilmerhale.com/jeffrey_rudman/ http://bpl.org/general/trustees/trustees.htm

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