Nearly a month ago, prompted by a well-attended MIT Faculty Meeting regarding the “Star Simpson affair” and the concerns raised by Patrick Winston and Kenneth Manning about MIT’s conduct in the matter, I started to look into how Faculty Meetings might be recorded and archived. The meeting was lively and surprisingly revealing. The next Faculty Meeting that went around came from Lily Burns, a staff associate in the Office of the President. I emailed her, asking about having Faculty Meetings recorded. After a month of stonewalling, I haven’t made much progress in my efforts to have faculty meetings broadcast. Chancellor Philip Clay said that finding a faculty member to sponsor the motion would be necessary, and I’ll be following up on that lead this week.
But, in looking over my conversation with Lily Burns, I thought people might be interested in one of the least productive 22-message email threads ever:
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Alec Resnick
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Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 4:46 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Hi Lily!
I had a quick question: to whom should I speak about the possibility
of recording faculty meetings? I’d love to make them publicly
available; unfortunately, I won’t be able to make the Wednesday
afternoon times this term…
Thanks a bunch.
Gratefully,
a.
2008/2/15 Lily U. Burns <lub@mit.edu>:
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Hi-
This has come up before. At present there is not a plan to record the Faculty Meetings. You can look at the minutes on line through the archives website after the meetings however.
Thank you,
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Alec Resnick
<aresnick@mit.edu>
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:22 AM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Hi Lily —
I’d be happy to set up the necessary equipment and personnel to do
this. Thanks!
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
<lub@mit.edu>
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:29 AM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
Cc:
"Bevin P. Engelward" <bevin@mit.edu>
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Alec-
Thank you for your enthusiasm. At this point, we are not ready to do this. There are no recording devices allowed at the Faculty Meetings other than those for the Secretary of the Faculty.
Again, you can read the minutes following the meeting if you want to find out what happened.
Thank you,
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Alright; whom should I speak to about setting something like this up?
Really, I’m happy to undertake it as a project.
Thanks for your help!
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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I am the right person. I can bring it up at a Faculty Officers Meeting the next time we meet.
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Great, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. When is the next Faculty
Officers Meeting?
I’d be happy to scrounge up the supplies, get the appropriate
paperwork signed (if releases are necessary), and implement whatever
online component would be necessary.
Thanks again! And please don’t hesitate to let me know what else I
can do to help.
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
<lub@mit.edu>
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:47 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Alec-
This is a lot more complicated that you seem to think. Again, I appreciate your enthusiasm, I really do, but this is not something that can just start all of the sudden.
I will keep you posted.
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:52 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Oh? I guess I haven’t necessarily thought _too_ carefully about it.
What’s subtle about it? I’d be interested to meet sometime to talk
about it, if it is that complicated.
Thanks again!
-a.
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Alec Resnick
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Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:21 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Hi Lily!
I was wondering how the Faculty Officers’ Meeting went, and what I
should do to start working toward getting faculty meetings recorded?
Thanks!
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:25 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Alec-
There are no recordings at the Faculty Meetings.
Thank you-
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:58 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Hi Lily!
Can you tell me a bit more about what people said at the Faculty
Officers’ Meeting? I understand that the current policy allows no
recordings, but I’d appreciate it if you helped me to try to find the
right people or channels to look to change this.
Thanks for your time.
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:43 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Alec-
Why don't you come by my office to talk. Can you come today around 3:15? Or tomorrow morning? This is not something that can be changed as it is an MIT Tradition of the Faculty.
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Unfortunately I can’t today; however, I can tomorrow afternoon. When
I spoke to Philip Clay about it, he said that one way to approach it
would be to have a faculty member sponsor a motion during a Faculty
Meeting. [Philip] said that it was a Faculty Rule, which is set by
the Faculty. Is that the same as an MIT Tradition of the Faculty?
Thanks!
-a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Hi Lily!
A meeting I wasn’t going to have tomorrow was just rescheduled;
unfortunately, my afternoon times dried up. Are you free Thursday
morning, by any chance?
Thanks!
Gratefully,
a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:02 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Hi-
I can meet at 9:30am.
Lily
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Alec Resnick
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:03 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Sounds good to me!
Thanks, Lily.
-a.
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Lily U. Burns
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Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Great. My office is 7-211.
Have a good night,
Lily
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Lily U. Burns
<lub@mit.edu>
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:12 AM
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To:
Alec Resnick <aresnick@mit.edu>
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Alec-
I am not able to meet on Thursday after all. I think if you can explain to me why you are interested to record the meetings, I can pass it on to to right people.
Lily On Mar 11, 2008, at 8:03 PM, Alec Resnick wrote:
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Alec Resnick
<aresnick@mit.edu>
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Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:51 PM
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To:
"Lily U. Burns" <lub@mit.edu>
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Well, I think that transparency is really important. The power
structure at MIT is pretty obfuscated (at least to undergraduates).
The intersections of various jurisdictions and responsibilities of
different organizations, groups, and individuals is not at all clear.
The Faculty Meetings are one place where a lot of things very germane
to students’ concerns are discussed and decided upon. As a result, I
think these deliberations should be public domain. I understand that
there are a variety of concerns for faculty in this regard, but I’d at
least like to open up a dialog regarding what students see as due
process.
Thanks a bunch for connecting me to the appropriate people; I’m
excited to email/meet with them.
Gratefully,
a.
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