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how is information flow part of the social reform puzzle?

posted in reform by Alec on July 17th, 2008 :

Several weeks ago, Charlie DeTar at the MIT Media Lab emailed out some notes (see the end of this post for a transcript) from a casual gathering of affiliates of the Center for Future Civic Media. There are lots of ideas in the email; however, I’m curious about where one in particular leads:

Manuel Castellas — place of space, place of flows. Balkanization - information silos. Is hyper-localization just going to encourage balkanization? We focus politics in this country specifically on the level of 300,000,000. What about the level of 6,000,000,000? How do we strengthen local politics, while at the same time working at the world level? At the mass level of media, people commonly play lowest common denominator, and people usually watch what they already agree with. People seek validation, and seek out what they like. There’s too much media - it would take 10 times real speed to watch everything that is being produced. _Something_ is filtering what you see. How to build a better filter?

So, the question for this week:1 to what extent is affecting the flow of information relevant to changing people’s minds? What about changing their information diet: what type and quality of information people expect to consume? When it comes to the filters that govern people’s information access, where do they come from? How many are implicit?

My interest in these questions comes down to the following: in the context of education, where should I push to make information available? What media are most useful for changing the right people’s minds?

Original email

Hi all, I took some sketchy notes during the Civic Media Bull Session last night. It would be overly charitable to describe them as “minutes”, but perhaps they can help trigger further discussion of some of the issues we raised. Here goes: —  — Civic media bull 2008-06-27 Youtube: what’s it for? Is it for diversion, or subtle discussion? “I’m Voting Republican”, “It’s Raining McCain”, “McCunt” vs. rational discussion of issues straw man, comedy, maybe not real (but maybe?) youtube [sic] is for publishing. People don’t go to the front page to find videos, they get links from friends/family. But is this good for engaging real discussion? Hubert Chang: “I helped invent google [sic]”. True, interesting, but not viral. Video production not so good. Should there be instructions, tutorials for making a good YouTube video? Templates for proper video format to get big and viral? Is it a good goal to have radical decentralization? No band should sell more than 10,000 records; no band should sell just 1. Decentralized communities forming around local interests. Lots of porn stars are very local. “Cam girl” phenomenon. Each has a few hundred to a few thousand subscribers, working in dorm rooms, etc. The big budget porn movie is basically gone. The same thing is happening with bands on MySpace, where the relationship is personal. People talk directly to the bands. On the other hand, there are news and images that are so important that as many people as possible should see them. Expert systems, reflexive democracy — Jurgen Habermas, U. Beck. Consider the different types of risks, and experts, who do you listen to? Do you listen to the people warning about global warming, or the people talking about economic danger? U. Beck talks about going for hyper-local, reflexive democracy which allows a local community to create power structures locally. You have to at the same time pay attention to the global voices and the local voices, pay attention to the majority and the minority. Manuel Castellas — place of space, place of flows. Balkanization - information silos. Is hyper-localization just going to encourage balkanization? We focus politics in this country specifically on the level of 300,000,000. What about the level of 6,000,000,000? How do we strengthen local politics, while at the same time working at the world level? At the mass level of media, people commonly play lowest common denominator, and people usually watch what they already agree with. People seek validation, and seek out what they like. There’s too much media - it would take 10 times real speed to watch everything that is being produced. _Something_ is filtering what you see. How to build a better filter? How do you create discourse, dialog, critical thought? The mississippi [sic] right now, some communities build large levees which flood other communities, and there is no communication. Lots of quiltwork. Would like to generate dialog that engenders understanding rather than derision. Is “I’m Voting Republican” the wrong way? A balance between talking to your communities, and not watering down the upset, emotion, reactionary things. You need to be able to express that stuff. Are republicans/democrats a community? Is voting for a president enough for a community? A shared space, What defines community? A set of people affected by a common thing? Communities seem to cut at many levels, on macro and micro scales. The Boston Public Transportation system is a community; you should talk to it on that level. An email from a women’s technology group in Sweden, “she-geeks”, which has an awful connotation among CS students in Switzerland. Since “geek” has a positive connotation everywhere else, should they change their name? Noone has a problem with the name except for a small community of local, backwards CS students. Should they cater to those interests by changing their name? The OLPC has an app called “hippy” which can be offensive in some spanish dialects, and they had to change the Application name. There are times to stand up for a particular word, and other times when the word isn’t that important. A catalyst in engaging a dialog may be humor. Sarcasm (such as “I’m a Republican”), presenting the facts (such as the Daily Show)… Paul Otlet — the web, 1934. Tried to catalog all the books in the world, but “invented the internet”, but conceiving of a network of telephones/monitors that allow you to call up any book. “The Treatise on Documentation”. Emmanual Goldberg, an engineer/scientist, worked for Zeiss Icon in Dresden, Germany, and invented the first system to use electronics to access documentation. Used microfilm, with a pattern of opaque dots and lights, like punch cards, to access microfilm. Vannebar [sic] Bush — 1945, “memex”. What matters about this? Why have we never heard about this guy? What’s important? Is it that this guy was the “first”, or far before the others? But why is it that Wikipedia one [sic], and not the others — or Edison, instead of the others? There are certain social moments… American journalism is very different from journalism elsewhere in the world. America seems to make news items out of what is really advertising or marketing. Conspiracy: Bohemian Grove. Onion News Network: Deibold releases presidential election results early. Enka: a Japanese middle-aged musical style, done by a guy from Pittsburgh (Jero). Lame for young people, but done by a stereotypically urban young guy. Two very local communities communicating. How do you navigate popularity to create community dialog? PORN!!! If you want to engender discussions that bridge conservative/local dialogs, you have to use humor, or other apolitical ways to generate interest.
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  1. As some people have pointed out, I flaked on keeping my thinking about last week’s question open. But, I think I’ve arrived at answer, nonetheless (about which I will write, shortly) []

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  1. Jason P said, on July 17th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

    I’m very curious of what you think about this subject. I think the idea of “information” is a very difficult one. If you tell an impoverished child the quadratic formula, have you really accomplished anything?

    It’s also an area of inquiry where there’s a lot of complete nonsense getting in the way of a reasonable theory. The two dominant ideas are both ridiculous, in completely different directions. Namely, there is the “abstract rational agent” who merely uses information, and is not affected by it; and then there is the “abstract educational subject,” the “blank slate,” who is merely affected by information (“indoctrination”).

  2. Jackie Peters said, on August 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    The filtering and delivery of information is the next evolution of the web, and most likely that process will fall under what is being called the semantic web. The best way to filter and deliver the content that will be of the highest value is to do it in such a way that the information that is delivered is of the highest value to the person it’s being delivered to. There are a variety of people and companies currently working on tackling the semantic web from various angles. Nova Spivak and his new semantic discovery engine, Twine, online video filtering service ffwd are some good examples. Through technology; behavioral targeting, retargeting, processing the information included in one’s social graph, monitoring the streams of information that people create around themselves, we can start to get an idea of what might be valuable to any given individual (assuming they participate in the social web.) Armed with this information, and content that is properly tagged and includes the appropriate meta data, we can construct algorithms that can predict with some accuracy which content will be most relevant to which individuals.

    That said, we’re still a ways off from this technology working well, and there isn’t enough meta information attached to content or individuals yet for it to work on a grand scale. But this seems to be the direction we are moving in.

    To answer your question, in the context of education and in terms of your project (starting your own university) I think it would be a really interesting study in the learning process if you could build a semantic layer into your technology, so that each individual student receives the information that is most relevant and useful to them.

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